I'm very interested by the end of this book. It's really amazing to me the subjects that the author brings in. Real life subjects and situations. I think the idea of warfare and misunderstandings can be interpreted to our world. The buggers didn't know humans had thought and the humans didn't know that the buggers weren't dangerous since they found that out. It was all a misunderstanding that lead to years and years of preparation, deaths, and final war. Much like wars that have gone on in our world. Also, it's extremely unfair that Ender never knew what was going on. Even up until the end, he didn't even know he had just won a war. He just thought it was another game. You can't trick an innocent child like that. After everything he had gone through, he deserved the right to know why he was there and when he would be going in to war with the buggers. I love that he searches out to start a new colony of buggers and begin his own world not on Earth. It's like his way of saying "Forget you, humans!" I loved the ending. I'm just sad on how limited Ender's knowledge was through everything: battle school, murders, family, and war.
The visit between Valentine and Ender reveals just how much Ender has changed during his time at battleschool. I imagine Valentine’s reaction to him is like of a parent to a college student who has come home after being away for a long time. She keeps picturing him as a little boy and is always surprised when he acts very differently. Though Ender is extremely hesitant to open up to Valentine – shocker - he eventually does so. The conversation that ensues reveals that Ender has no wish to return to Earth or to continue fighting. He has loved and destroyed and he is tired of doing both, for they always seem to go hand in hand for him. Here we see Ender being pushed to come to terms with who he is. After finishing this book, I cannot help but feel saddened and disgruntled by the way Ender was tricked into fighting a war. He thought it was simply a game and had been approaching it as such. Even more than that, he had to live with the guilt of the lives that were lost in the mistakes he and his officers made. Though Mazer said that was the only way it would work, I still feel bad for Ender that that is the way it turned out. Orson Scott Card did a good job of foreshadowing this turn of events in the way that Ender decides that the game is very significant. In the end, the simulation turned out to be a real life war. Also, the game he plays on his desk turns out to be a big deal, too. Additionally, I found it interesting the way everything ended between Ender and Peter and Valentine. The way that Peter used manipulated his anger and used it not only to bring about peace but power is, I feel, similar to the attitudes of many leaders in our world. As for Valentine, I have two words: character development. In the end, Valentine learns that she though she is certainly a good writer, she her opinions and values matter and therefore she begins to talk a little more about them. I also found that I relate to Ender a lot more than I thought I did. This book was exhausting to read because I got so into the story that I felt like I was there for everything that was happening. And that is how I know this is one of the best books I have read a long time.
This book has one of the most beautiful endings i have ever read. But, i'll get to that. I don't really know how i would feel as eleven-year-old Ender. His entire training had really just been a lie. But, would humans have done it any other way. Would they really have trusted the fate of the buggers up to an eleven-year-old kid without letting him believe his actions were just for a game? Would Ender have even fought in the simulator if he knew it wasn't just a game? would i? I can't even begin to imagine the amount of pain Ender must have felt. I mean, his friends tried to help, but it was really all Ender's decision. He didn't know that he was really killing off the entire species. But they way they forgive him is beautiful. So amazingly beautiful. I'm not a big fan of how they make Ender's book a religion, but there's just such a religious feel to the way the bugger queen forgave him for his actions. That looks almost like God's mercy. Jesus suffered, in my opinion, the most torturous death any person has had to die in the history of humanity, and he did that so He could forgive us of our sins. I feel like the only way the bugger civilization would have forgiven Ender was if he killed them all. If there were even a handful left alive, they would have resented Ender for his actions, even if he didn't know what he was really doing. the ending of this book really brought up an interesting idea. What would the day say to us if they could speak? Would they give us advice so we wouldn't make mistakes they made, or would they even talk to us, in resentment to the fact that we're alive and they are dead?
I liked the ending of this book and I felt like Card tied pretty much all of the loose ends up so I was satisfied. I thought the way the buggers built the game into their world to communicate with Ender was awesome. Ender left Eros for the buggers not for Valentine, or himself. He was looking for a way to pay the buggers back for destroying them. I feel like when Ender took the Queens cocoon, he felt like he was allowed to forgive himself. I felt sorry for Ender after the final battle because he was not aware of what he was doing. If the ending hadn't allowed him some sort of freedom, I would not have been happy. I thought it was interesting that Peter reached out to Ender as he was dying; I never expected them to speak again. Peter told Ender everything he had done and it seemed like Ender finally accepted his brother. This story was definitely interesting and I really enjoyed the book as a whole.
I honestly think I ruined this book by watching the movie first. There were many details minor and major missing from the movie. I liked the movie a lot but I did not like the book. I liked Ender's story and I liked the way this book was tied up. I liked that Ender was willing to make up for killing off the entire bugger nation by keeping the new baby queen safe. He turned out to be almost self less in the end because he did not leave Eros to live a hppy life with Valentine. He left to make some restitution from the buggers. I liked that him and Valentine got to see each other again and even that him and Peter made peace. I thiught it was sad that his friends left him to go back to Earth but also good for Ender in a way. This book was not great but it was not terrible. There was a lot of information and detail and I was confused a few times throughout the reading. Kaitlyn
I am so glad that we get to finally talk about the ending because the one from the book was so different from the movie but I guess that's because the books are longer and are a four part series so I will have to wait for some stuff to be explained. I was particularly impressed with how Ender took everything he learned and turned it into a book.mi couldn't believe that Peter was pretty much ruling earth because that was the last thing I expected to happen. I really am looking forward to the next book and movie because I want to see where Ender decides to start the new world for the burgers to repopulate. I think this is going to be the best series out of the ones we have read so far.
Towards the end I started to feel bad for Ender cause everything people have been telling him has been a lie. They never told Ender the truth about anything he did because they wanted his full attention on the Buggers. I feel like he had to right to know that he had killed two people accidentally, he didn't show much emotion towards that except for anger because no one had told him. I also found it interesting that Peter took over the world. He went from being this evil child to becoming a more evil person by taking over the world. Ender could never go back to Earth in fear that is own brother would try to kill him. I also think that it is wrong that Ender had no idea that he would be killing off an entire race of buggers. I don't get how they could trick him into fighting a real war and not just a simulation. I feel like you would notice if you were firing live weapons at living creatures.
I think Ender was incredibly strong throughout this book, and it's especially shown in the ending. When he thinks he cannot possibly go on anymore and hates "the game", he pushes on for his sister Valentine, simply because he loves her and wants to protect her. After he is tricked into killing billions, he is of course horrified, shocked and doesn't leave his room for a long time, but he doesn't stay depressed forever. He has the strength to start a new life. I especially like at the end how he finds the cocoon and promises to find a new world for the buggers, as a sort of redemption. After all that he has been through and suffered, Ender is still himself, still a good person at the end of the story, and that's something to admire.
Ah, the ending. One of the most glorious literary conclusions...basically ever. Thought it is interesting to read the gamut of ideas about the ending. Now that we've finished, I have questions. As it has been expressed, ideas about Ender vary from trained murderer to innocent beyond reproach. Criticisms I have read have (I feel wrongly) illustrated Ender as a little Hitler, fully capable of obliterating the buggers from the start. He is merely honed by his training and is completely unjustified in killing Stilson and Bonzo. My question for the group is just that: is he justified in killing them? Is he simply a murderer who contrives innocence (as a character or as the author's subject)?
I'm very interested by the end of this book. It's really amazing to me the subjects that the author brings in. Real life subjects and situations. I think the idea of warfare and misunderstandings can be interpreted to our world. The buggers didn't know humans had thought and the humans didn't know that the buggers weren't dangerous since they found that out. It was all a misunderstanding that lead to years and years of preparation, deaths, and final war. Much like wars that have gone on in our world.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's extremely unfair that Ender never knew what was going on. Even up until the end, he didn't even know he had just won a war. He just thought it was another game. You can't trick an innocent child like that. After everything he had gone through, he deserved the right to know why he was there and when he would be going in to war with the buggers. I love that he searches out to start a new colony of buggers and begin his own world not on Earth. It's like his way of saying "Forget you, humans!"
I loved the ending. I'm just sad on how limited Ender's knowledge was through everything: battle school, murders, family, and war.
The visit between Valentine and Ender reveals just how much Ender has changed during his time at battleschool. I imagine Valentine’s reaction to him is like of a parent to a college student who has come home after being away for a long time. She keeps picturing him as a little boy and is always surprised when he acts very differently. Though Ender is extremely hesitant to open up to Valentine – shocker - he eventually does so. The conversation that ensues reveals that Ender has no wish to return to Earth or to continue fighting. He has loved and destroyed and he is tired of doing both, for they always seem to go hand in hand for him. Here we see Ender being pushed to come to terms with who he is.
ReplyDeleteAfter finishing this book, I cannot help but feel saddened and disgruntled by the way Ender was tricked into fighting a war. He thought it was simply a game and had been approaching it as such. Even more than that, he had to live with the guilt of the lives that were lost in the mistakes he and his officers made. Though Mazer said that was the only way it would work, I still feel bad for Ender that that is the way it turned out. Orson Scott Card did a good job of foreshadowing this turn of events in the way that Ender decides that the game is very significant. In the end, the simulation turned out to be a real life war. Also, the game he plays on his desk turns out to be a big deal, too.
Additionally, I found it interesting the way everything ended between Ender and Peter and Valentine. The way that Peter used manipulated his anger and used it not only to bring about peace but power is, I feel, similar to the attitudes of many leaders in our world. As for Valentine, I have two words: character development. In the end, Valentine learns that she though she is certainly a good writer, she her opinions and values matter and therefore she begins to talk a little more about them. I also found that I relate to Ender a lot more than I thought I did.
This book was exhausting to read because I got so into the story that I felt like I was there for everything that was happening. And that is how I know this is one of the best books I have read a long time.
~Sheridan W.
This book has one of the most beautiful endings i have ever read. But, i'll get to that.
ReplyDeleteI don't really know how i would feel as eleven-year-old Ender. His entire training had really just been a lie. But, would humans have done it any other way. Would they really have trusted the fate of the buggers up to an eleven-year-old kid without letting him believe his actions were just for a game? Would Ender have even fought in the simulator if he knew it wasn't just a game? would i? I can't even begin to imagine the amount of pain Ender must have felt. I mean, his friends tried to help, but it was really all Ender's decision. He didn't know that he was really killing off the entire species. But they way they forgive him is beautiful. So amazingly beautiful. I'm not a big fan of how they make Ender's book a religion, but there's just such a religious feel to the way the bugger queen forgave him for his actions. That looks almost like God's mercy. Jesus suffered, in my opinion, the most torturous death any person has had to die in the history of humanity, and he did that so He could forgive us of our sins. I feel like the only way the bugger civilization would have forgiven Ender was if he killed them all. If there were even a handful left alive, they would have resented Ender for his actions, even if he didn't know what he was really doing.
the ending of this book really brought up an interesting idea. What would the day say to us if they could speak? Would they give us advice so we wouldn't make mistakes they made, or would they even talk to us, in resentment to the fact that we're alive and they are dead?
Jacob Poettker
I liked the ending of this book and I felt like Card tied pretty much all of the loose ends up so I was satisfied. I thought the way the buggers built the game into their world to communicate with Ender was awesome. Ender left Eros for the buggers not for Valentine, or himself. He was looking for a way to pay the buggers back for destroying them. I feel like when Ender took the Queens cocoon, he felt like he was allowed to forgive himself. I felt sorry for Ender after the final battle because he was not aware of what he was doing. If the ending hadn't allowed him some sort of freedom, I would not have been happy. I thought it was interesting that Peter reached out to Ender as he was dying; I never expected them to speak again. Peter told Ender everything he had done and it seemed like Ender finally accepted his brother. This story was definitely interesting and I really enjoyed the book as a whole.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think I ruined this book by watching the movie first. There were many details minor and major missing from the movie. I liked the movie a lot but I did not like the book. I liked Ender's story and I liked the way this book was tied up. I liked that Ender was willing to make up for killing off the entire bugger nation by keeping the new baby queen safe. He turned out to be almost self less in the end because he did not leave Eros to live a hppy life with Valentine. He left to make some restitution from the buggers. I liked that him and Valentine got to see each other again and even that him and Peter made peace. I thiught it was sad that his friends left him to go back to Earth but also good for Ender in a way. This book was not great but it was not terrible. There was a lot of information and detail and I was confused a few times throughout the reading.
ReplyDeleteKaitlyn
I am so glad that we get to finally talk about the ending because the one from the book was so different from the movie but I guess that's because the books are longer and are a four part series so I will have to wait for some stuff to be explained. I was particularly impressed with how Ender took everything he learned and turned it into a book.mi couldn't believe that Peter was pretty much ruling earth because that was the last thing I expected to happen. I really am looking forward to the next book and movie because I want to see where Ender decides to start the new world for the burgers to repopulate. I think this is going to be the best series out of the ones we have read so far.
ReplyDeleteTowards the end I started to feel bad for Ender cause everything people have been telling him has been a lie. They never told Ender the truth about anything he did because they wanted his full attention on the Buggers. I feel like he had to right to know that he had killed two people accidentally, he didn't show much emotion towards that except for anger because no one had told him.
ReplyDeleteI also found it interesting that Peter took over the world. He went from being this evil child to becoming a more evil person by taking over the world. Ender could never go back to Earth in fear that is own brother would try to kill him.
I also think that it is wrong that Ender had no idea that he would be killing off an entire race of buggers. I don't get how they could trick him into fighting a real war and not just a simulation. I feel like you would notice if you were firing live weapons at living creatures.
I think Ender was incredibly strong throughout this book, and it's especially shown in the ending. When he thinks he cannot possibly go on anymore and hates "the game", he pushes on for his sister Valentine, simply because he loves her and wants to protect her. After he is tricked into killing billions, he is of course horrified, shocked and doesn't leave his room for a long time, but he doesn't stay depressed forever. He has the strength to start a new life. I especially like at the end how he finds the cocoon and promises to find a new world for the buggers, as a sort of redemption. After all that he has been through and suffered, Ender is still himself, still a good person at the end of the story, and that's something to admire.
ReplyDeleteMarianna Mercer
Ah, the ending. One of the most glorious literary conclusions...basically ever. Thought it is interesting to read the gamut of ideas about the ending. Now that we've finished, I have questions. As it has been expressed, ideas about Ender vary from trained murderer to innocent beyond reproach. Criticisms I have read have (I feel wrongly) illustrated Ender as a little Hitler, fully capable of obliterating the buggers from the start. He is merely honed by his training and is completely unjustified in killing Stilson and Bonzo. My question for the group is just that: is he justified in killing them? Is he simply a murderer who contrives innocence (as a character or as the author's subject)?
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